{"id":18398,"date":"2019-05-15T11:28:32","date_gmt":"2019-05-15T16:28:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/feminem.org\/?p=18398"},"modified":"2019-05-19T11:59:57","modified_gmt":"2019-05-19T16:59:57","slug":"awaem-anniversary-interviews-10-years-of-progress-susan-watts-phd","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/feminem.org\/2019\/05\/15\/awaem-anniversary-interviews-10-years-of-progress-susan-watts-phd\/","title":{"rendered":"AWAEM Anniversary Interviews: 10 Years of Progress \u2013 Susan Watts, PhD"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>This week, we speak with Dr. <a href=\"http:\/\/elpaso.ttuhsc.edu\/som\/emergency\/faculty\/Watts.aspx\">Susan Watts<\/a>, an associate professor at Texas Tech University, who\nserved as AWAEM President from 2014-15. She offers her unique perspective on being\na woman PhD \u201cin an MD world\u201d and the challenges that continue to face women in\nacademia.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Tell me a little bit about where you are in your career\nright now and how it was that you got there.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S Watts:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Right now, I am kind of\nsemi-retired. I officially retired a year ago. I retired at the end of November\nlast year and then I was retired for a whole month and then I started back in\nJanuary, half-time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am a PhD not an MD, so\nI am research faculty in our department and I am focusing primarily on research\nand education right now, not having to do any of the committee work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Tell me a little bit about how you got involved with\nAWAEM.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S Watts:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I started out as a member of the\ntask force which was kind of a precursor to AWAEM. My chair had suggestion that\nI get involved with SAEM and he knew about the task force and recommended that\nI look into it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So, I volunteered. It\nwas an effort that Kathy Clem was heading up. I volunteered and they took me on\nand I worked with them, the couple of three years that led up to the official\nformation of AWAEM.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Then, stayed with AWAEM\nand I was secretary and I wasn&#8217;t treasurer. With AWAEM it rolled over and held\na number of board positions up until president and past president.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>You were really there from the inception. How has the\norganization changed and grown since then?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S Watts:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Oh, I think it&#8217;s just amazing that\nwe started of fairly small. I was just looking back here at the membership list\nthat we had from the early days. 20 or 30 people and just a small cohort that\nwere real active in the organization.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Now, when I look at the\nnumber of committees and the number of women holding leadership positions, it&#8217;s\njust amazing, the opportunities that have arisen out of this.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Also, I felt like early\non, a lot of us were more senior, a little bit older and it&#8217;s just really\nexciting to see the younger women, the junior faculty really stepping up and\ntaking over the organization and just growing it just tremendously.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It&#8217;s just fantastic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Tell me a little bit more about how AWAEM has affected\nyour career.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S Watts:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; For me, especially being a Ph.D, it\ngave me a way to kind of link into SAEM. I always enjoyed the meetings a lot\nbut not having gone through a residency, I didn&#8217;t know a lot of people. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; AWAEM gave me a way to\nmeet women and some men as well and find some purpose and some leadership\nexperience, also opportunities to collaborate on publications and research\nprojects and things like that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It provided me a lot of\nacademic opportunities as well as kind of social opportunities as well. Then,\nthrough the work I was doing there, it gave me some leadership experience on a\nnational level which helped with my tenure promotion application.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Again, gave me some\nopportunities for publications and then also people who had leadership positions\nat other academic centers who I could ask for reference letters for my tenure\npromotion packet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It really benefitted me\nthat way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>That&#8217;s terrific. Tell me a little bit more about\ncollaborations that have grown out of your involvement in AWAEM.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S Watts:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I worked- Let&#8217;s see, with several\nwomen on the gender equity project. I had also worked on a earlier version of\nthe salary survey but I think that was for another committee, SAEM committee\nthat I was officially part of for that one.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But, for that, I also collaborated with, I&#8217;ll have to look up the name, I&#8217;ll have to re-edit this one. I collaborated with SAEM members on a salary survey paper and then I collaborated with Esther Choo and others on the gender equity paper as well, the survey that they had done.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Those are two of the\nmajor things I think that I got through SAEM membership and collaboration with\nmembers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>You mentioned how the leadership role contributed to your\npromotion process. Can you comment on how leadership in women focused\nprofessional organizations specifically is considered for the purposes of\npromotion?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S Watts:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In our university, the leadership in\na women&#8217;s organization doesn&#8217;t figure in particular, but having a leadership\nposition in a committee on a national level no matter what the context is\nsomething that they look at.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As far as my tenure\npromotion process, that I don&#8217;t think being part of the women&#8217;s&#8217; leadership\nreally had much impact but as far as for myself, it really helped. It gave me\nsome experience that also provided me with opportunities in my institution for\nsome committee leadership that I think also positively affected my professional\ntrajectory.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Describe a little bit more about your motivation for\npursuing leadership role within AWAEM.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S Watts:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Since starting out with the task\nforce, I was trying to find my place. Being a Ph.D in an MD world, I was having\na hard time finding my place in emergency medicine, so I find kind of a home so\nto speak in AWAEM and then starting off with the task force, I got more\ncomfortable.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I was not ready for a\nleadership position for many years and then it was finally my turn to be the\npresident, then I was ready at that time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I don&#8217;t know if that\nanswered the question.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Tell me about how gender has affected your career\ndevelopment.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S Watts:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It&#8217;s been a challenge. When I first\nstarted in my academic career at Texas Tech, I was the only woman in our\ndepartment for many years, the only Ph.D in our department, and one of only two\nor three Ph.Ds on the campus, so I was really kind of odd man out trying to\nfigure out how I&#8217;m supposed to function without collaborators and such.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I think being a woman has kind of\nslowed me down because there weren&#8217;t other women that I could relate to or have\nrelationships with and there wasn&#8217;t any mentoring, there wasn&#8217;t any role model\non our campus for me to kind of try and follow in the footsteps.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It was a big challenge\nfor me at my home institution. Again, coming back to AWAEM, finding women who\ncould serve as role models and mentors was really a big help to me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>How has involvement in AWAEM potentially translated into\ngreater gender equity in your own work environment?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S Watts:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I find that I am, we have more women\nin our department now and more women clinicians, so encouraging them and our\nwomen residents as well to make sure that for the physician, the attendings,\nyou&#8217;re making sure that the salaries are on an equal scale to the male salaries\nand the maternity polices, we&#8217;ve had a couple of female residents who have had\nbabies during residency.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So, making sure that the\nmaternity policies are in place and fair. Opened my eyes and given me a little\nmore resolve to make those things happen in our program.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>What career accomplishment would you say you&#8217;re most proud\nof?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S Watts:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I think getting my promotion because\nI was denied promotion the first time around and second time, I got it. Then,\nalso trying to- I was the first faculty member in our department to get\nacademic promotion in many years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; That was quite an\naccomplishment and then, I&#8217;ve been trying to help other faculty get theirs as\nwell. We&#8217;re working our way up to having more associate professors now. The\nfull professors that we&#8217;ve had, a couple of them came in as full professors\nfrom the outside.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We haven&#8217;t had somebody\ngo up through the ranks locally, we still don&#8217;t have a full professor yet.\nThat&#8217;s the next goal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>What advice would you give to a younger version of\nyourself or an AWAEM member at an earlier stage of her career?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S Watts:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Get involved. I think getting\ninvolved with your national professional organization, whether ACEP or AWAEM\nor- Not even necessarily women&#8217;s group. Find something, some committee, some\ntask force in your national professional organization to get involved with.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Find some interest that\nyou wanna spend your time on and then work your way up from member to\nleadership of that committee or even leadership in the organization itself.\nThat&#8217;s time well spent. There&#8217;s a lot to gain from that, that time investment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Listen to the podcast <a href=\"https:\/\/feminem.org\/podcast\/awaem-anniversary-interviews-10-years-of-progress-susan-watts-phd\/\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This week, we speak with Dr. Susan Watts, an associate professor at Texas Tech University, who served as AWAEM President from 2014-15. 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